Hawking Forum Post 32711


Subject: Re: The Geometric Universe is Impossible!
Date: October 24, 2000 at 19:11:16
Poster: Samuel A. (Sam) Cox

Hi:

I've been distracted by midterms at the college and quarterly finals at OHWA, all that kind of thing. We are founding a college, attending to charters, Pell grant stuff, curriculum etc in addition to the teaching.

What interests me (back to the subject)is that we have so much experimental verification for the counterintuitive, and the counterintuitive, believe me has a logic all its own!

I think the experimental verifications of GR have to mean something. I agree with you heartily that we live in the world you describe.

The $64 question is: is what we perceive locally, what is really going on?...cosmologically that is. For millenia, religions have maintained that there is another side to reality with a more fundamental permanence than our own.

Where did this intuitive concept come from?

4-D is dynamically unstable. How could such order come from chaos without some guiding system, some foundation to conserve and preserve it?

Honestly Charles, as we come to understand Quantum Mechanics as a frame of reference phenomenon, I think Physics is going to be forced in a more deterministic direction than it has ever seen in the past.

I read the stuff "Theorist" put up on the Hubble Constant, and I agree with almost everything he said, but if you look at that post carefully, you will see what may be a curve ball, and on the other hand may be a conceptual lapse even on his part...and I am very impressed, to say the least with his mastery of GR! I posted some remarks, but I've had problems with the software in this forum from day one...usually but not always going back and trying again works....so I didn't bother. We can communicate later.

Charles, I agree with you about the way we sense the universe. I even believe we were MEANT to sense it this way. Nevertheless, from what I have learned about cosmology, I worry that things cosmologically are not what they seem to us from our reference frame- and I believe that fact may be significant, very significant.

Best wishes for now...Sam

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