I see your note came from "dupage". I assume that is Dupage Illinois near Wheaton College, where we often use the airport. Wheaton is a well respected orthodox, Christian college...you called yourself "Mr." are you a professor of theology?

Religious people can be excellent scientists. I think of George Lemaitre, the Catholic priest, and Gregor Mendel, but the list of deeply religious people who have made profound contributions to science is very long. Religious fanatics are, however invariably poor scientists.

A truly religious person is humble. He or she understands that he or she does not know, and therefore must fall back in faith and trust.

The universe does not honor either arrogance or ignorance, so we can assume there is something quite intelligent- and religious about it. If nature was God, there would be little need for creatures like us, so I'm not Panthiestic either.

The existence of intelligence in the universe (us) and complexity at an unbelievable level...low, low, low entropy is proof enough that God exists. It is highly improbable that we are at the top of the pyramid of intelligent complexity in the universe.

The Bible says that: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". Lets face it, we have a beginning, and so did the Earth and the universe- FROM OUR FRAME OF REFERENCE- so from that frame, few scientists would argue.

Aristotle and Plato went further, and insightfully observed that the periodicity so abundant in the universe, implied that the creation, in a larger sense, is eternal.

Modern observations indicate that the universe might indeed be eternal, though finite in mass. This by no means excludes "God", for religion has taught for centuries that God is eternal. Nothing, by definition, exists outside a General Relativity universe, and religion has taught for millenia that nothing exists outside God either. Since we are a result of entropy reducing "processes" at work in the universe, and we presumably are intelligent and have personalities, it is illogical to assume God is a "force" and lacks qualities which we ourselves possess. An eternal, and in that sense infinite God would have to incarnate to complete His Diety, so we cannot assert the incarnation was illogical and or unnecessary.

Plato saw our existence as intermittent but eternal, like the sun rising and setting or the moon going through its endless phases. The 7-D General Relativity universe is identical. We experience intermittent eternal life with gradual change. Our lives are important, not only to the universe, but to ourselves- unless we want a rotten quickly terminated temporal existence forever. Is. 54:10 says:"The mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed, but my mercy will NOT depart from thee, saith the Lord who has mercy on thee".

I angered a few people when I declared I was an avowed theist. One person even told me I could not be a good scientist and a theist at the same time. The facts are not in agreement with that assertion.

If we did not exist, the way we do, arguing that God does not and cannot exist would make sense. The fact that we are here, like periodicity in the universe, is proof enough that Deity exists.

The nature of the universe, and the Diety which pervades it are both legitimate bases for honest, humble inquiry and study.

Best Wishes, Sam Cox